Yesterday, May 20,2013, Toni Ingram tweeted 14 “clues” that she apparently thought were significant in relation to her daughter’s death. By definition a clue is something that serves as a guide or aid in the solution of a problem or mystery. Following that definition, these aren’t really clues. None of these lead anywhere.
Below are Toni’s clues followed by my response.
Quotes are written by Toni Ingram and posted @morgansstalking:
Clue #1 Amitriptyline [sic] in the stomach is not related to PMR but Amitriptyline [sic] in the blood is subject to PER [sic]
Clue #2 How could a person have a blood level of 7900+ng in her blood, when 1,000 ng is lethal?
Clue #3 the amount of Amitriptyline [sic] in Morgan’s stomach fluid was not enough to kill her, but that is what the pathologist based suicide on
Clue #4 if you were a Forensic Toxicologist you would know why the date rape drugs in Morgan’s stomach fluid never made it in to her blood especially because one of those date rape drugs would have gone into the blood at the same time as the Amitriptyline [sic]
Clue #5 The Pathologist that did Morgan’s autopsy blames PMR for her high reading, but PMR kicks in at 24 hrs & goes for the next 24 hrs.
Clue #6 Pathol. est. Morgan took 18 pills, only accts for Ami in gastric not the 7909ng/ml found in her blood. 18-25 mg pills not lethal
I have grouped these first six together since they all concern amitriptyline.
This has all been addressed before, much of it in a previous blog, What Dr. Kurtzman Knew. Either she does not understand the science or she refuses to accept it. Toni claims they have consulted with several medical professionals but I find that claim highly suspect. These first six “clues” show a complete lack of understanding for even basic pharmacology and organic chemistry.
One more time for those who joined us late:
Toxicity and absorption of drugs cannot be discussed without a basic understanding of pharmacogenetics.
Pharmacogenetics is the study of genetic differences that affect an individual’s response to certain drugs. Different drugs undergo different metabolisms as a result of genetic variation, especially in the cytochrome p450 family of enzymes. My point? There are no absolutes. It’s impossible to know Morgan’s cardiotoxic level without knowing if she was or was not deficient in the cytochrome P450 enzyme.
Cardiotoxic levels of amitriptyline generally occur between 450 ng/ml to 1,000 ng/ml. Okay, so how did Morgan end up with a postmortem level of 7909 ng/ml.
First it is essential to understand that when medical professionals talk about the cardiotoxic level they mean antemortem, prior to death. Antemortem levels are based on plasma, which is prepared by spinning down a fresh whole blood sample to remove the red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets. From a pharmacokinetic perspective, red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets are a tissue compartment.
As I mentioned in What Dr. Kurtzman Knew, amitriptyline is highly lipophilic (lipo=fat + philic=love of) and found in greater concentrations in both fat and protein than in plasma. The human body begins autolysis, the breakdown of tissue, at the moment of death (the idea that this process waits 24 hours and ends 24 hours later, is laughable). Amitriptyline, resides mostly in deep tissue compartments and is released into whole blood.
The result is the levels in the whole blood, which is what is used for a postmortem sample, will reflect concentrations from tissue, red blood cells, white blood cells, and plasma and range from 5 to 10 times higher than the antemortem plasma concentration. In addition, there may be redistribution from other tissue compartments into the blood as the body decomposes.
Clue #6 [sic] Morgan had an overkill dose of drugs in her blood, but no container or syringe was found anywhere in her room or in the house.
The “container” was the pill bottle next to her bed.
Clue #7 Morgan’s nails were torn on her right hand 1-1/2 years later nobody in GarCo can produce a picture from the crime scene of her nails.
According to the medical examiner, her nails were intact when Morgan left his morgue.
Det. Sergeant D. Breier
Unattended Death Report
She exhibited a small amount of blood in her mouth [pulminary edema]. There was a very small red mark on the right side of her forehead [lividity]; otherwise there was no apparent evidence of external trauma
Case # 11-29169
Detective J. A. LeMoine
Unattended Death Report
Once the Coroner arrived on scene the towel covering Morgan’s upper portion of her body was removed. Video and photographs of Morgan’s body were taken at this time. I did not observe any signs of trauma on Morgan at this time.
Clue #8 ALL of her jewelry of value went missing on the night she was killed while her #stalker frequents cash for gold establishments.
Toni concluded Morgan’s jewelry was missing only after she heard Keenan was picked up on a theft warrant. These charges were later dropped.
Det. Robert Glassmire:
I explained to Toni that if she wants to report a theft of Morgan’s jewelry I would be happy to assist with that and either generate a new case or add it to the ongoing stalking case. I then told her that she would have to complete a list of stolen items and that she could not look at a list of items and determine what had been stolen from that list.
It should be noted that there is no information to believe that Keenan Vanginkel has stolen any of Morgan Ingram’s jewelry. Furthermore, Toni or Steve Ingram have yet to provide me with a list to base a theft report on.
Clue #9 Morgan’s #panic button was torn from its mount on her nightstand and found hidden in her room.
We only have Toni’s word on this and we all know what that’s worth.
Clue #10 The rain gutter directly over Morgan’s bedroom window was torn in half by repeated bending by her #stalker leaning over the edge!
The gutter was discovered long after the Ingram’s moved from the house. If someone was leaning on the gutter it would bend, sag, or pull away from the house. The gutter over Morgan’s windows appears split on a seam
Clue #11 Morgan’s room was completely disheveled with obvious signs of a struggle having taken place there
Case # 11-29169
Detective J. A. LeMoine
Unattended Death Report
During this time I observed that Morgan’s bedroom was disorganized with clothing and other items covering the majority of the floor. I observed that the adjoining bathroom to Morgan’s bedroom was in the same condition.
Did the struggle continue into the bathroom? If Morgan fought off an attacker to the point that it left her room in disarray (Det. Sergeant Breier called it slovenly), how is it she bore no defensive wounds and her body showed no signs of trauma? How is it this struggle was not heard by Steve and Toni Ingram?
Clue #12 Figures are caught three times outside the house by video surveillance on the night Morgan was killed.
Supplemental report #2
Det. Sergeant D. Breier
The residence has an installed video surveillance systems recorded by a DVR. The video was reviewed which showed the decedent (identified as Morgan Ingram) returning home around 2100 hours. There was no further activity until the decedent’s mother moved the vehicle she had parked in the driveway so emergency responders could access the house
Clue #13 The next door neighbor reported odd things going on in Morgan’s bathroom the night she was killed – but was never questioned
How did the neighbor know what happened in Morgan’s bathroom? Surely Morgan would have her blinds drawn/shade pulled down etc.
Clue #14 Why would a person that does not know Morgan or her family & wasn’t involved in her stalking/murder be so invested in lying?
First: I have never lied about Steve, Toni, or Morgan Ingram, Keenan, Brooke, or anyone else connected to this tragedy. The Truth for Morgan group has NEVER harassed or bullied Steve or Toni Ingram or any of their supporters. We don’t have to slander Jodin Davunt, Sarah Afshar, or Mark Mann et al. They have successfully made themselves look far worse than we ever could.
When I discovered distortions and outright lies in the Morgan’s Stalking blog, lies of which Toni was made aware, I delayed exposing her faux pas, to give her every opportunity to correct or retract her mistakes (she didn’t). Furthermore, I use proper blogging etiquette and strikethrough if I have to make changes, unlike Toni who completely deletes and rewrites posts on a whim.
Essentially Toni is asking why we we would bother to stick up for someone (Keenan Vanginkel) we do not know personally. In my opinion her inability to grasp the why factor is telling.
Toni Ingram has made it her life’s mission to ruin the lives of others based on faulty logic and substandard science. There is absolutely no evidence that Keenan stalked or murdered Morgan, but that doesn’t matter to Toni. She slanders and accuses any and all who dare to disagree with her, unfettered by morals or conscience. The young people Toni bullies have barely crossed into adulthood. Life is hard; Competition for opportunities to advance is greater than it ever was. Toni Ingram is robbing these kids of their futures and limiting their opportunities by besmirching their names.
Someone has to stand up to her and say enough is enough
Why? Because it is the right thing to do……
It’s that simple
May 15, 2013
by Shelby (not to be confused with MayraMM, Marcie Wogan, or Tricia Griffith)
May 13, 2013
Surprise! Keenan Vanginkel’s criminal history barely resembles Toni Ingram’s description.
On 10 May 2013 Toni Ingram wrote:
Which brings up the third piece of advice which I have found to be a very informative, and a useful tool – that is to get the criminal records of the stalker, especially a stranger stalker. As the claims that he has never been in trouble in his life grow ever louder from all of his family, the list of charges, for a twenty-one year old seem very, very, long. And most all of the charges he has been found guilty of portend to a serious problem if connected with a stranger stalker, as they are in Morgan’s case.
Toni has written several times about Keenan’s so called criminal record. In the above quote and in previous blogs, she has consistently presented it as extensive. Although she has not made that record available via Morgan’s Stalking, she has shared it through her Twitter sock account (@SupportIngrams) and with her Twitter followers They in turn have made it publicly available through their hate sites and Twitter pages. Readers who wish to see it may do so at one of the following Twitter account pages:
https://twitter.com/SupportIngrams (this is Toni Ingram)
It is located in the left hand column under “view all videos and photos.”
Here is the problem with this document:
It is not Keenan Vanginkel’s criminal record.
What Toni Ingram calls an extensive criminal record is actually a global subject activity report.
The global subject activity report is a record of a citizen’s interaction with law enforcement. The activity report can contain items unrelated to criminal activity. For example, if I am a witness to a car accident or if I am stopped for speeding and given a warning, or even if I am the victim of a crime, it would all be entered on my global subject activity report, A glance at Keenan Vanginkel’s GSAR shows multiple items where criminal charges weren’t applicable, including an impounded vehicle, witnessing a crime, and a trespassing accusation on Aug 25, 2011 courtesy of the Ingrams.
Last week I ordered a copy of Keenan Vanginkel’s criminal history; his real criminal history. I ordered it from CBI which is the agency Toni repeatedly has said should have been brought in to investigate Morgan’s death.
Not exactly the record of a criminal mastermind ninja stalker.
I know I shouldn’t be surprised at the level to which Steve and Toni Ingram will sink, yet I am. I just don’t understand what is wrong with these people. How can Steve and Toni, along with those who actively lie on their behalf, stand the very sight of themselves?
Just one last thing.
Of what charge was Keenan found guilty that “portends” predicts, foretells, prognosticates, or adumbrates, pick a word any of them will do, “a serious problem” if connected to a stranger stalker? Tell us Toni, which one of Keenan’s crimes do you consider the great harbinger of future stalking events? Was it the marijuana possession or was it the drug paraphernalia charge?
If smoking pot leads to stalking, most residents of Colorado should watch their backs; they could find themselves on someone’s suspect list.
My apologies for not updating this blog these past two weeks. I spent the last eight days exchanging emails with Tumblr support, trying to determine why I could no longer post to this blog. MayraMM successfully logged in and posted and I was able to log in from work. I’ll spare the details, but tech support concluded my IP was blocked from their end for no identifiable reason. They called it “highly irregular” and said it warrants further investigation.
Based on Tumblr’s reaction, readers might be wondering if I think I was hacked. My answer is no I don’t think so. I think what happened was a careless data entry error on some level.
Still, just in case this ever happens again, and in the interest of maintaining continuity, I set up a mirror on WordPress. Readers can find it at https://truthformorgan2.wordpress.com/
Check back often for more info and updates through the weekend.
Now for that update………
Back on the 5th of February I wrote a blog entitled Oh What a Tangled Web They Weave in whichI took the Ingrams to task for representing The Morgan Ingram Foundation as a legitimate incorporated non-profit organization, when it was not. I am pleased to inform readers that on March 22, 2013 The Morgan Ingram Foundation incorporated as a not for profit organization based in Las Vegas Nevada. Why Vegas I do not know. If I find out I’ll be sure to post it here.
In Toni Ingram: Her Own Worst Enemy I wrote about a blog entry Toni did on March 21. The blog, Breaking News: Why Do People Assume the Wrong Thing and Run With It? was inaccurate to the point of embarrassment. However, the real issue was the blog was potentially hurtful to the family of Jeff Walker, the Aspen resident who was the blog’s subject. I suggested she write a retraction, and apologize to the family. As of this update, she has completely lived up to my expectation and done nothing. If she does decide to do the right thing I will post it here.
Last but not least…………
Toni wrote the following on April 1, 2013:
So there exists a set of reports wrapped in claims of honesty, and truth that is 75 pages long. Lie number 1 exposed – just the supplemental reports that I have are 220 pages long. Wouldn’t you say that 220 pages down to 75 pages is one heck of a lot of redacting? And as to lie number 2, Keenan is never named in the reports, for the record, in the full 220 page “unredacted” version, Keenan VanGinkel’s name is mentioned at least 214 times. Not zero – two hundred and fourteen. And that is not the shocking part of the reports, just the sound of a few lies hitting the floor.
But why would you lie? Why would you feel the need to alter the Sheriff’s reports so greatly, my Nana would know, she would say that if you have to lie, think, maybe you are doing something wrong! If you have redacted Keenan VanGinkel’s name from your reports and you then represent that his name is never mentioned in the reports, that is not a clever half-truth – it is a lie, but as I said before that is not the shocking part.
All I can do is shake my head. I hardly know what to say to this. When Truth for Morgan initially requested the stalking report we received just that; the stalking report, without the supplemental pages. We did not lie nor did we intentionally remove anything. Since Toni decided to make an issue of it we decided to order the supplemental reports and make them available to anyone who wants them. What readers will see is every available page exactly as it was received from the Garfield County Sheriff.
You can download it here: